Thank you Larry worked like a charm !! Can you please help with another question. All my ribbons have a percentage on them I do not have a text in the bar format or on the bar itself. could be from the set up ( I did not do the set up of the master) do you know how I get rid of it? If I try to put a resource name at the end of the ribbon/bar it write over the 100% so neither can be seen?