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Kyle: All right, we’ll go ahead and begin. We’re very happy to welcome back. Dharmesh Patel. Dharmesh is a seasoned technical project manager with over 15 years experience using and implementing Microsoft technologies. He has worked for various large multinational organizations, sectors including finance, e-commerce, and technology, as well as continued engagement with Microsoft. So, with that said, I’d like to welcome you back, Dharmesh, and at this time I’ll hand it over to you to begin the session.
Dharmesh: Brilliant. Thank you very much. Hello, everybody. Let me start by sharing my screen. Have I shared the right screen? Apologies. I think I’ve just clicked on the… Can I just get some help in sharing my screen? I think I’ve…
Kyle: [inaudible 00:02:09] seen your PowerPoint control panel right now. That’s what I see. You may need to switch the presentation mode.
Dharmesh: Apologies. Okay. Screen… Oh, okay. Very sorry. Super. Thank you very much, and welcome to today’s session. So, what I wanted to do was just take you over some of my learnings, especially over the last year or so, especially with the pandemic, of how I used MS Teams and how I use some of the associated technology to really help in delivering and driving some of my meetings. So, today, what I wanted to do, and there were some key areas that I wanted to focus on, and hopefully what you’ll be able to take away from today’s session, would be really to help define your meeting. So, why are we having this meeting? What is it? Who is it for? When? And just some of my learnings associated to that. Then I want to go into a bit of a demo to help you and take you on a tour on some of the features which are available with MS Teams in helping to assist in running your meeting, and be that using some of the associated technologies that are available.
Dharmesh: I also wanted to cover some of the elements of moderating and capturing your meeting notes. What are the options that we have, and how can we get the best out of that? And then, finally, actually managing and following followup actions. So, how are you capturing those? How are you following up on those? What are the options that we have available? Just at the end of that section, I wanted to cover something about the wellbeing element, as well, which is about managing your time, as well, and how the Office 365 suite, or the Microsoft 365 suite, can assist you in that, as well.
Dharmesh: So, the first area that I wanted to cover, and I guess you may be familiar with the five why’s, but I guess really at the moment, majority of meetings are online, so I really want to focus on the key four elements of why we’re having this meeting, I guess first of all. It’s really important to ensure that there’s a clear purpose. Setting up a meeting with no clear purpose is the worst thing that you can do to your coworkers. Them not knowing why they’re attending a meeting can cause frustration for them. And we want to make sure we’re getting the best out from our team and making sure we’re using their time effectively, as well.
Dharmesh: To achieve that, it’s always useful to ask yourself, “What is this for?” So, what are you looking to achieve from your meeting? And having a clear agenda about what this is about. Preparing a list of relevant talking points and sticking to them. We want to make sure that we’re getting the most out of our attendees. And then that leads me into the who. So, again, making sure for a truly effective meeting, your attendee list should be carefully crafted and aligned to the agenda. Calling a whole team together to only talk to two people isn’t really effective, and actually, you will start losing engagement from your team.
Dharmesh: And just on some of the learnings that I’ve had, as well, is about when, as well. And that’s about when is that meeting happening, and what is the length of it? So, making sure that you’ve not underestimated the time, because that does happen in certain sessions. Or actually, making sure that it actually fits with the schedule, so that you’re not just chasing deadlines and putting something in with limited notice.as much planning as possible in advance definitely helps in making sure you’re effectively able to deliver the meeting.
Dharmesh: I did purposely have the final point, which is where, and a lot of the guidance that I’m providing to my customers and the teams that I am working with is very much about actually meetings are now changing, and it’s very much online or MS Teams first approach. And actually, the key rationale behind that is to start making it a level playing field for all attendees, especially for large organizations where you have multiple offices potentially in the same country or across different countries. Having to get everyone together in the same room for a meeting isn’t always possible, and it has been seen that previously, it’s not a level playing field for attendees who are potentially on a call. So, actually, by taking the approach of having a Teams first or an online first meeting, we’re giving everyone attending the meeting that ability to have that fair game.
Dharmesh: Okay. So, the next section I wanted to cover with about optimizing your meeting experience. So, what does that mean? And this is very much about leveraging some of the tools that are available with MS Teams today, and some of the elements that I will talk to and take over, and I’ll start with a quick demo of Microsoft Teams and setting up a meeting and some of the features that are associated to it. I’ll also talk about Whiteboard. And what is Whiteboard? So, Whiteboard is a virtual whiteboard which you and your team members are able to work on together. And I’ll go through that to begin with, to show you.
Dharmesh: Let me stop my sharing the presentation. And first of all, I wanted to bring up Microsoft Teams. So, this is my test Microsoft Teams, which I have created. Within here, it’s very simple for me to create a new meeting, similar to Outlook, and set up my meeting from in here. Once I’ve set it up and sent it out, I’m just going to jump into an actual team meeting which I have running in the background, and just take you over some of the, I guess, some of the new features within Microsoft Teams, which you may or may not be aware of. I’ve got my option to have the ongoing conversation, which is around this team. A new feature which has recently been introduced and has been rolled out across all tenants now is the ability to react within a meeting, so either raise your hand to ask questions, either giving it a thumbs up or a like, to have an active engagement within sessions.
Dharmesh: There’s a feature called Breakout Rooms, and I’m going to talk about that shortly separately to this. And then there’s various options that we have. I want to draw to your attention really about the key meeting settings that you can have. So, if you’re organizing this and having external parties, you have the option of how that experience would be for people. Having the ability to mute people, and also, allowing the ability of having chat in terms of the IM, instant messaging feature. And I think that’s quite important because depending on the type of meeting you are running will determine how you would like to set that up. I think some of these settings can be set in advance of the meeting to ensure what you are delivering and the session you are running is run effectively.
Dharmesh: One feature I wanted to talk to you about was about Whiteboard. Now, where I could share my screen within Microsoft Teams, you may have seen some additional options, so when I click share content here, you will see, I’m able to share my desktop or any windows that I have open. But also, there’s some options here where I’ve got the different PowerPoints on the right hand side, but this is the one I want you to focus on. And this is Whiteboard. I’m going to jump into the Whiteboard app. There is a web-based version, which is very similar. So, you can see in my browser, I’ve got my web version here where it will show me the different virtual whiteboards that I’m working on or have access to. I’m going to open the app version, as I want to show you some of the features within there, and also show you some of the preview features which are coming down the line, as well.
Dharmesh: So as part of my meeting, I have this whiteboard, which is linked to the meeting, and anyone who is a member can see that whiteboard. I’m just going to go create a new one. So, you can see that I’m able to go in and I’m able to add people, or link it to the meeting. Now what I’m able to do here, so I’m able to write within the session, so here are my notes. And I’m able to do that and move that around and put it into a particular part of my whiteboard. What I’m also able to do is you can see that I’ve got the ability to add sticky notes. Apologies. I’ve lost that. Here, you can see I’ve got the ability to add sticky notes, similar to when you’re in a meeting room and you want to add particular notes and stick it up on the whiteboard. So, that gives me the ability of doing this.
Dharmesh: One of the key features I wanted to show you of Whiteboard, and there’s some really exciting features coming very soon, is about the ability of using some pre-canned views, or templates. We’ve got the option here of, you can see, I’ve got a notes grid option, so I’m able to have various notes, and you can see I’m able to continue adding to it. And that’s a template which is provided in Whiteboard. I’ve also got the ability of having something called have a follow up list, which can help me track my actions and type them within here and actually assign them out, so afterwards, at the end of the meeting, I would be able to print this out or copy this out and put it into an email to ensure the actions list have been clearly identified. And I can do this while I’m running my meeting, so actually, all of my team are seeing this.
Dharmesh: And one of the cool ones which I really wanted to show you was the template feature, and this really helps depending on the type of meeting you are running. So, if you’re running a brainstorming session or if you’re doing sprint planning and you want to have that virtual Kanban, I’m able to have templates for that. And there’s one, funnily enough, similar to what we’re looking at for this meeting, about effective meeting. And you can see it’s dropped it directly into my Whiteboard, and I can pick that up and move it, and we’ll just move it here.
Dharmesh: And you can see it’s already helped me. So, it’s got my agenda so I’d be able to pre create this in advance of the meeting, it’s got follow-up items which I would populate during the meeting, and also, as we’re going through the meeting, I’m able to have something called, for example, a parking lot. At the moment, these templates are not configurable. They’re just templates which are provided by the solution, and you can see that they’re in preview, so this is something which is coming. But it gives you a good basis of being able to create your meeting notes and collaboratively share them with the team.
Dharmesh: Okay. So, if I just go back to my presentation. As part of some of the features which MS Teams have and have been released, and I’ve got screenshots of these to help show this, so there’s a feature called Live Capture, and I find this really useful, especially where you’re potentially in a international scenario where your colleagues are talking and… Actually, I know Microsoft have now done translation, as well. And you can see at the bottom here where it’s actually giving me a live feed of what is being said in the meeting, and that’s the AI technology in the background, which is kicking in. And actually, I can read that as I’m going, and for me, especially in the working [inaudible 00:17:51] during the pandemic, at certain points where you’re working from home and there’s other background noise, having this feature was really good. And it really helped me sometimes read through, similar to subtitles, where you’re watching television.
Dharmesh: Microsoft have also introduced something called Breakout Rooms, and I see this as a virtual rooms, so rooms within meetings. What this allows me to do, and I’ll go to the screenshots for it, you can see from here, what I’m able to do as part of my meeting, and I mentioned it when I was sharing the Microsoft Teams window, that I’m able to create breakout rooms. And by that, for my attendees, I’m able to say that I want attendee one, two, three, and four to be in X breakout room, and I want attendee five, six, seven, eight to be in another breakout room. And it could be that actually we’re using this for the ability of, I guess, brainstorming sessions if you were having wider team meetings.
Dharmesh: As the organizer of the meeting, what that allows me to do is I’m able to go from one meeting to the next, or one breakout room from the next, to get feedback, see how that meeting is being run. And again, in the virtual world, this was a very good way of having my whole wider team in one meeting, and then actually being able to break out within there. I guess previously you may have half day or day workshops, and then you break out. Actually, you’re able to do this virtually now, and it actually works really well. It lets your teams within the rooms have discussions and have their own mini meetings, as such.
Dharmesh: So, one of the other key benefits of Microsoft Teams is the video experience and how that actually helps bring the team together. And videos are depending on the scenario. It may or may not be appropriate to use. But using videos is a very good feature which Teams is able to help with, and they’ve introduced something and I’ll just flick through my screens. You can see that they’ve got various video experience, which Microsoft Teams support, be it, I guess, in this grid view, and you can see that, actually, supports up to quite large teams, to where you’re actually presenting and having that presenter mode where you’ve got your panels of users in different areas. And again, it’s a preference on how you would like to deliver your meeting.
Dharmesh: And also, they’ve introduced something called a Together mode. Together Mode is all about actually changing the way of how you would potentially have sat around the table, and you can see here that these are just some of the, I guess, quirky backgrounds that you can have for your Together Mode. So, rather than it all been on grids, it’s actually, you’re sitting next to each other in a virtual world or virtual auditorium, and I find that’s quite a good way of seeing your colleagues, as well. And it’s quite an interesting way of working.
Dharmesh: So, moving on to the next topic which I wanted to discuss, which was about moderating and capturing meeting notes effectively. First of all, I guess in terms of moderating and using of the video feature, a lot of clients of mine asked for advice on when should videos be used and what is appropriate? And some of the, I guess, guiding principles that I’ve been providing to my clients is videos may not be appropriate at all points of time during a Teams meeting. However, maybe at the beginning of meetings for initial intros, and I think that really helps break barriers and boundaries where you’re able to, I guess, put a face to the name and say hello to your team members.
Dharmesh: It could be at regular team meetings, so say you have a daily [inaudible 00:23:14] which is a 15 minute call first thing in the morning, or some sort of regular forum, that potentially it’s useful within those team meetings. Or your presenting, and you’re a presenter, Microsoft have now introduced a number of features where, and they are rolling this out, where actually you would be able to present in front of your presentation. So, potentially, it would have a silhouette of myself here in Microsoft Teams where I’m able to do that.
Dharmesh: In terms of the capturing of meeting notes and how that can be done, I wanted to show you and take you over the integration between, I guess, meetings and OneNote and how that integrates and how I use it and how I find this useful. So, if I bring up my meeting invite first… So, for today’s session we had a, with Kyle, I had a meeting invite, and you can see within here at the top, on the top ribbon, I had an option here which is called Meeting Notes. Now, if we were part of the same organization, and if I was to click on this, there would be two options here. There’d be one for me to share my notes with Kyle, and he would have visibility of it, or have the option of taking my own notes. So, in the example here, I’m just going to show you about taking notes on my own. Of course, if you were all part of the same organization, you will have the option of sharing those notes, so actually, everyone who was a member of the meeting would be able to see those notes.
Dharmesh: When I click on that option, and I’ve started this already, I’m going to bring up my OneNote, you can see that in my OneNote, I have my notes here. I have details of what the meeting was. So, here you can see that it was the Tips, Clicks, and Tricks. And then, also, I’ve got my attendee list, and here I am able to… And I’ll zoom in slightly so we can all see. And you can see here I’ve actually got the option of checking who has attended this meeting, so I’m able to track that as well.
Dharmesh: Now, in terms of notes and some of the features which I use, and I’m just going to create some notes as we go through this session, so if I had a action item, what I’m able to do is you can see the top bar here, there’s some quick buttons here, but also there’s some additional tags here. So, if this was a to-do item, I would be able to tag it with a to-do, and you could see that it gives me that to-do. And then I can continue with that. If this was an important note, it was a key takeaway from the meeting which I really wanted to make sure I highlight and remember, you can see that I’ve got this option here, which says there’s a key important note. And again, it will help me tag it.
Dharmesh: Similar to that, there’s various other options. So, it could be that I had a particular question that it wasn’t appropriate to ask now, but actually at a later point, it may be. And again, I’m able to go into here and I’m able to say, “Right, I want to ask a question. I want to remember that I need to ask this question,” so it will help me to categorize and actually surface those. Once I’ve done that, you can see I’ve got the option of then finding that later on. So, if there was something that I wanted to go look for, and again, this isn’t just associated to this one, but across all of my meetings, if I wanted to look at what were my important items, or what are the key questions? You can see that I’m able to filter and sort on those. So, it’s very powerful, and I think some of the features within OneNote and being able to track your notes within here is very powerful. And I would highly recommend you using this when you’re attending meetings… attending or you’re actually running meetings. It’s an effective way of being able to manage the notes and send those out post a meeting.
Dharmesh: That then leads me into some real interesting technology which Microsoft has released recently, which is about real time transcript. Now, what that’s doing is using the AI technology to actually take notes for you. So, as we’re in this meeting, I would be talking, and I’d be saying, “Dharmesh Patel has an action to go and send follow up notes for the meeting. Darmesh Patel has an action to investigate some of the issues which are happening on the project. Darmesh Patel [inaudible 00:29:19] send a notification out to the team to give them a project status update.” And as you’re talking, actually what the technology is doing is actually transcribing that, and you’d be able to see that with some of the screenshots I’ve put in here. And this is a feature which is coming soon, so you may or may not see this in your tenant. And I guess just one other caveat is that this would be dependent on the organization that you are at, enabling this as a feature.
Dharmesh: And what that will do is actually transcribe that for you, and at the end of the meeting, I would be able to download that and actually have those notes created for me. And that will go hand-in-hand and coincide with the recording of the session, as well. So, actually, I would be able to go back, so if it was an important workshop and you needed someone to take those notes as you’re free flowing, it will do that for you. And just from my initial use of it, I wouldn’t say it’s 100% accurate, but it’s pretty good. And I can see some great benefits of that tool. And it’s something that you can enable per meeting, so it’s not something that would be on all meetings. I’m not sure if it would be appropriate for all meetings. It’s probably more where you’ve got your larger workshops where you would want that assistance in capturing the notes and follow-up actions that you would have.
Dharmesh: And then, the final section which I wanted to talk to, and I think I’ve probably covered of quite quite a bit of this, is really following up on action. So, how do we do this? What do we do? So, similar to what I was showing you, I’ve got various methods where I… And again, this would be something dependent on what you are comfortable with. We’ve got the OneNote feature, and if I just flip back to my OneNote and I’ll bring that up here, so I’ve taken my meeting notes, either it would have been shared with the team, or I’m actually able to use a feature directly in here. So, I’m able to email this out. So, actually I can email this out, send this to the attendees so they’ve got meeting notes with clear meeting actions, as well. And I think this is really useful to do, and I use this frequently.
Dharmesh: There is the option, which I spoke to a moment ago, which was about the transcript feature. And again, that is very powerful, and some of the notes that it takes and the details are really good. One of the other features which I have started to use, especially where it’s a brainstorming session or it’s a session where we’re doing something creative where we’re having those ideas and we’re talking about a new product or planning out a project, recording the meetings. And what that really helps with is going back and having a look at some of the key points, and the meeting recording is stored within your tenant or your instance of Office 365. Again, a feature which you’ve got your administrator would potentially need to enable if it’s not already. And that’s stored within the Office 365 ecosystem, so you would be able to go back and look at those. And I think that’s really, really useful, and I found that useful for those, as I mentioned, brainstorming sessions.
Dharmesh: So, bringing it together a lot of what we’ve discussed around having that virtual whiteboard where I’m able to throw up ideas and get other team members to also do the same, because it’s something which everyone attending the meeting is able to do, to using OneNote to capture my meeting notes and help me create my own notes and share my notes with others, to actually recording the session as well, to making sure I’m able to really get the most out of the meeting, as well, and go back and listen to some of those nuggets of information which you would have.
Dharmesh: The final topic I wanted to talk to was about actually managing your time and how that is really important, as well, in terms of actually following upon actions and making sure you have that ability and time built in your diary, as well. Microsoft have released a feature as part of the Office 365 suite, and very closely integrated with Microsoft Teams, something called My Analytics. My Analytics is focused on four key areas, so there’s focus, wellbeing, collaboration, and network. So, focus being making sure that you as an individual have enough focus time in your calendar and helping, I guess, carve out time within your diary to have the ability to focus on actually doing your day-to-day work. It’s very easy, especially in the current world, to fill your diaries with just meetings of back-to-back 9:00 to 5:00, or whatever hours you’re working.
Dharmesh: The wellbeing section, and this is quite a big one, really helps identify where it suggests that you should be really trying to break away from work, and if you are in too many meetings, suggesting some reduction in those. And I know Microsoft are working on some amazing features to really help with that. So, for example, I know that this feature’s coming where meetings would be set to 50 minutes, or 25 minutes, and you’re actually able to do that when you’re setting your meeting a lot more simple than today. Today, either it’s a 15 minute, a 30 minute, or one hour meeting.
Dharmesh: And then there’s the collaboration section, and actually, I can go in and show you this in the test environment that I have set up here. The collaboration sections shows who you’re working with the most and how much interaction you’re having with them. And I think that really helps, showing who your key team members are. And then, finally, the network around who you built relationships with and who that’s with. So, if I just go to my set up that I have, and I’ll bring this up…
Dharmesh: So, as part of Office 365, and I’ll go to the home, this is my test environment that I have. This is my, I guess, my dashboard, and potentially you may be used to this with fitness Apple, fitness trackers, and I guess that’s the way I would see this for what the My Analytics section is. And you can see it’s cut into the four areas, which I was mentioning, so around the focus time, so do you have enough focus time; the wellbeing, so making sure you’re actually got the appropriate disconnect from work with the blurred lines that we’re in at the moment; who we’re collaborating with, and my network.
Dharmesh: And as I go into those, and there’s a feature within here which really helps, and it’s something potentially you’re able to do, which would help actually put in focus times in your calendar. And there’s a process that you can go through to do that. It shows you your trends, as well, so it will help you actually understand where a lot of your time is going. As I mentioned, and this is a demo area that I’ve got so I only use it for presentation, so you can see that actually I’ve got quite a bit of free days, but in here it will help you and ensure that you’ve got that time built in. And then this is where it gets interesting, where it shows me who my network is and who I’m working with the most and who I’ve been working with around, and again, building that out into who I’m working with externally and some of the other areas, and who are my key contacts I’m contacting on a regular basis.
Dharmesh: And then the collaboration, it helps build out what are some of my habits? Are there anything that I can do or improve? So, am I attending all my meetings? How long am I taking to get back? When am I setting up meetings? Are they mainly during work hours? And it really helps with that tracking. And I guess I’ll position this as similar to being, I guess, through a fitness app for work and helping really understand where you’re spending your time and where it’s focused. And I think especially it’s really important at the moment that wellbeing is something which we do all take into consideration, as well, into our day-to-day working life.
Dharmesh: And that was it. So, just in summary, in terms of what we have covered today, we looked at, first of all, helping defining the meeting, so making sure we’ve got that clear objective of why we’re setting this up, what it’s about, who should be there, and when, and making sure that it’s planned appropriately. Optimizing the meeting experience, so making sure you’re, in a virtual world, you’re able to make the most of your meeting, so be that the Whiteboard feature or taking notes. Moderating and capturing meeting notes, so there’s various ways, again, that we went through that you’re able to do that and with some of the cool features that are coming with Microsoft. And then managing and following up on actions, so how do you share your OneNote out, leveraging some of the real time features which are coming from Microsoft. And then, finally, we spoke at the end about the managing your time, as well, and I think that’s really important and how you can leverage some of the stats and information which you kept from My Analytics.
Dharmesh: So, yeah. I guess if there were any questions, Kyle, maybe we can go through those. Otherwise, I’d just like to say thank you very much for everybody’s attendance today, and I hope to speak to you again soon in the coming future.
Kyle: Thanks, Dharmesh. We do have a few questions here I think we have time for. First one’s relating to the whiteboards. One came from Stacy and one from Jack. Stacy asks, “Are you able to save the whiteboard to use at a follow-up meeting?” And Jack was also asking how the whiteboards are saved, what format? And can they be SAS exported shared after the meeting?
Dharmesh: So, I’m not sure of the exact file format, but the meeting that I’m saving does save here, and you’ll be able to see that this is the one that I was in. So, be I’m here, or I’m actually in the web browser, those meetings will be accessible there, and you can see that, actually, linked to my profile I have those. And what I’m able to do is, of course, I’m able to lead it, but I’m able to share this out as well. So, if you’re a member of a particular whiteboard, you’ll also have access and be able to see that whiteboard. In terms of exporting it, I believe you can export it in terms of a PDF and print that out, so that is possible, as well.
Kyle: Okay, great. One more question came in from Laura. Is there a feature, or is one of the new features going to be the ability to block everyone else’s video from the meeting? For example, if you’re recording, you might not want a lot of the streams going on.
Dharmesh: Yeah. I probably need to check on that. I know you can block incoming video for yourself, but in terms of the recording, I’m not sure that’s something we can check and potentially follow up on.
Kyle: Okay. Perfect. Well, that does it for questions, Dharmesh. Before we close out, did you want to share your contact info or anything if anyone’s interested in reaching out?
Dharmesh: Yes. So, I guess, once again, thank you very much for everybody’s time. You can find me on LinkedIn, or if you do have any questions, I’m more than happy to answer those. My email address is firstname.lastname@example.org. And I look forward to presenting for MPUG once again in the future. Thank you.
Kyle: Absolutely. We’d be happy to have you back. And we do appreciate your time sharing with the MPUG community today.
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Kyle: And we have a course actually coming up on the schedule. So, the next three consecutive webinar Wednesdays will be part of this three-part course, Project Performance Measurement. So, part one will cover an overview of the project performance measurements, part two will be what to measure and how to report that, part three will be using Microsoft Project to track and report performance. So, the three part session is eligible for three PDUs, and will begin next Wednesday on May 5th. And it’s open for registration on MPUG.com, along with quite a few other regular webinars and courses, as well, so we hope to see you there at those sessions. And that does it for today, so once again, thanks, Darmesh. Thanks to everyone that joined us live or is watching on demand. Hope you have a great rest of your day, and we’ll see you back next week from the course. Thanks.